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Post by RoadKillBill on Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:21 am

Sharing this article that I found interesting (I get excited when I read articles that corroborate and support our HEART philosophy that exercise is good for heart patients):


The article also includes a link to the open-source BMJ publication. I am not advocating anyone abandon their meds, BTW.

The results consistently showed that drugs and exercise produced almost exactly the same results. People with heart disease, for instance, who exercised but did not use commonly prescribed medications, including statins, angiotensin-converting-enzyme inhibitors or antiplatelet drugs, had the same risk of dying from — or surviving — heart disease as patients taking those drugs. Similarly, people with diabetes who exercised had the same relative risk of dying from the condition as those taking the most commonly prescribed drugs. Or as the researchers wrote in statistics-speak, “When compared head to head in network meta-analyses, all interventions were not different beyond chance.”

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Post by Marc Thayer on Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:09 am

Good stuff...thanks for posting it.

Personally I had blown off most meds as they hadn't explained just what effect they were try to induce that I hadn't already achieved. And they were handing them out like candy...(Doc had a 24 tab pack in his lab coat pocket and just reached in and said take these as he was writing out the script.. I was flabbergasted at his cavalier approach to Rx). But that's just me...I don't advocate that approach for any one else.
BTW...love that statistics speak...I'll have to modify it a bit for my world but it could come handy... just got figure out what the hell meta analyses is.

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Post by Sumorunner on Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:07 pm

Meta-analysis means they didn't actually do their own research, so they don't have their own study to draw raw data from. They take data from several other published studies, combine with eggs, flour, water and stir to see what they can cook up.

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Post by Marc Thayer on Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:01 pm

Well that cooks me....I only use my own data...but I might just toss it out there and see if anyone catches it.

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Re: Exercise as Potent Medicine

Post by Rachel August on Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:29 am

I agree – so important to question everything! I’m not one to encourage someone from ceasing their prescriptions - but personally, I’m also not one for taking anything “extra”

I was put on a beta blocker after surgery - which is pretty standard treatment after valve replacement to lower the HR (mine was 95BPM – and was so strong at times that my heart beat would literally move my entire upper body) but my blood pressure was 80/50…. So my doctors gave me BB to take home with me (they wouldn’t give them to me in the hospital – hmmmmm….) but they still felt that I SHOULD be on them….so there I was dizzy, cold, sleepy and eating salty pretzels like crazy just to maintain my 80/50 BP!!!

Finally (about a week later) I got so bad that I experienced the room spinning AND tilting…. I almost took a nasty fall down the stairs!

So long BB’s!!! (with my doctor’s blessings of course)

My HR did suffer (it went down to the 70’s after a couple months) but it wasn’t until I started running that it came down to my normal 48-52 range

If I had known – or for that matter if my doctors had known - that running would have put me back together – I would have done it so much sooner!!!!

Medicine… statistics….. it’s a crazy game …..sometimes I just don’t like what’s cooking in that BIG pot either!

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Post by Dave Tuttle on Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:17 pm

Yep...Never met a medication I liked and I try to keep them to as few as possible too. It took a long time working with my Doctors to get off the BBs and running seems to be what keeps my BP under control best with no bad side effects.

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